It used to be, when one was engaged in an argument or debate, that reference to facts and authority were important. If you could offer demonstrably true evidence in favour of your position, the opposition would have to acknowledge it. They might then attempt to find some way to distinguish the facts, or present their own referenced facts which cut the other way, but one simply was not permitted to go blithering off in stone contradiction of the evidence. Moreover, if one were caught simply making shit up, that was the end of it. Anyone who sacrificed their credibility with falsehoods in an attempt to shore up a bad position sacrificed it ALL.
Now witness the sort of impertinent, uneducated, yammering, nonsensical horseshit that gets thrashed about the internet 24/7.
The great promise of the web was that everyone would have a voice. The great bane of the web is that everyone has a voice: Idiots, morons, imbeciles, liars; spittle-flecked madness and stone ignorance parading about dressed in absolute certainty.
Specifically, I offer a couple of recent commenters here at VNV for your consideration: The Mad Jewess (aptly named) and her Meir Kahane worshiping cohort / self-described former JDL leg breaker “JTF“.
The Mad Jewess is an interesting case. Personally, I think she’s batshit nuts.
She would, I have no doubt, argue that my calling her crazier than a shithouse rat is simply how libruls respond to being confronted with TRUTH! (She would also capitalize truth to make it more truthy). I prefer, as always, to deal with evidence.
TMJ posted a comment here asserting that she is 100% pro-Israel and supports that state’s policies. On what passes for her blog, however, she equates any effort to extend health care to all American citizens as an attempted communist takeover.
One wonders if she’s aware that Israel provides socialized health care to its citizens. This is, I assure you, only one example of this poor, demented, yammering lipflap trying to suck and blow at the same time.
TMJ argues that Bernie Madoff is a hero because he stole so much money from liberals.
It’s not clear where she obtained a complete list of Bernie’s victims, or managed to cross-reference their political leanings, but she said it.
She objects to being labeled a racist despite the evidence, found in almost every post on her garishly designed, center-justified, extremely manic blog.
In an early comment she objected to my contention that religion be kept out of education policy, in part, as follows:
“The REASON there is massive Jew-hatred is because Jews have LOST their identity., this blog is a perfect example of a Jew that has went after a false god=LIBERALISM.”
Leaving “has went” aside, apparently she is of the opinion that “Jew hatred” was substantially lower back in the days of the holocaust or the pogroms, you know…when Jews had an identity, which they don’t anymore.
How does one even begin to respond to that degree of stupid?
Seemingly it would please her to have the Christian Right take over education policy in America.
In addition to getting rid of evolution, they could repair the history curriculum and teach that Jesus Christ was the messiah.
Oh…wait a sec…he was just a rabbi, right? The messiah is still to come.
If you really want to see Jew hatred, imagine the schism…the war, after the Jews and Christians team up to get genesis into the biology classroom, when the question of Christ’s divinity comes up.
TMJ brings all of the foregoing in addition to an absolutely MANIC posting style – as if leaving four comments really fast somehow adds weight to her opinions – and an almost total inability to employ punctuation WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALL CAPS, AND LOTS AND LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exclamation marks always indicate truthiness.
More marks equals more truth.
After taking a well deserved bitch slapping in the comments thread, she ran off and recruited her BFF JTF.
This guy runs a site which honours Meir Kahane.
Meir was an ultra-right wing, paranoid, apocalyptic mad man who once started up a political party in Israel. Thanks to the presence of fair numbers of ultra-conservative nutbar Jews, he managed to actually secure a single seat in the Knesset.
While I have numerous problems with some of the policies followed by Israel, it counts in its favour that Kahane’s entire party was banned from existence due to its blatant, unrestrained racism.
JTF employs the derogatory term schvartze to refer to blacks, calls Barack Obama, “a black Muslim Nazi,” called me a Kike, asserted that the Preamble of the US constitution is not part of the US constitution, boasts (read lies) that he was once “a professional leg breaker for the JDL”, and holds out Bernie Madoff as a hero. Birds of a feather, eh? He does these things in support of his argument that Glenn Beck speaks the truth.
I ask again: How does one begin to respond to this degree of stupid?
These two brain withered turnips immediately rushed off to their home blogs and posted the alarm. I am described as an “erav-rav” (literally “mixed multitudes”) by JTF – a fake Jew, JINO (Jew in Name Only), one who has married out or otherwise betrayed the Jews and/or “pure Judaism”.
“Before the arrival of Moshiach, most of the rabbis will be from the Erev Rav, because Israel in themselves are holy, but the Erev Rav only work for their own benefit…wanting to rule over the public…
One should only join with those who truly serve G-d and sacrifice themselves to Him, but not in order to receive any benefit.” (Divrei Chaim, Parashas Vayakhel, ‘Omissions’)
Thus, a tell-tale sign of Erev Rav is not what the person does, but his motivation for doing it, which is not always simple to know. However, over time it is clear which leaders serve G-d and His people ‘lishmah’ – for altruistic reasons – and which ones do so for the sake of some personal benefit. Thus, you can find simple, unlearned but devoted Jews who are cherished by Heaven, and intelligent and well-learned
leaders who are self-serving, and despised by Heaven, especially when they fool the public and garner their respect.
THE EREV RAV DOES NOT HAVE AN OUTWARDLY SECULAR NATURE. ON THE CONTRARY, THEY CAN APPEAR QUITE RELIGIOUS AND, FOR THE MOST PART, FULFILL THE MITZVOS INCUMBENT UPON A JEW TODAY, AT LEAST EXTERNALLY. HOWEVER, THE ZOHAR ITSELF, AND THEN THE VILNA GAON, HAVE MORE TO ADD TO THIS LIST, BRINGING INTO EVEN GREATER FOCUS THE WORST OF ALL JEWISH ENEMIES THAT LIVES WITHIN.
Yeah, that’s me. Fulfilling the mitzvos but only in it for the money. I must be fucking up some of the mitzvos. Just a sec…my bacon, lobster and tomato sandwich is ready.
Where was I? Oh yeah…the enemy within.
There’s nothing to be done, you see. It’s not the sort of stupid that can be overcome with appeals to reason or facts. It’s biblical stupid. Utterly dogmatic. They’re right, and anyone who doesn’t march lockstep with them is erav rav; of the devil; a suppressive person…whatever the blitheringly imbecilic tag might be.
And it’s not just that Meir Kahane was right, or the Torah is right, or the Talmud or anything of the sort. This “being right” – the profound burden of being the sole guardians of truth beyond facts – bleeds over into every single opinion they have…and they have opinions on everything from Glenn Beck to the controversial debate between Miracle Whip and mayonnaise.
Only a fucking Nazi would choose the wrong salad dressing.
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